Erik Hess of Technical Difficulties and Dawn Patrol joins me to talk about the things that motivate and demotivate us, and turning hobbies into jobs and then back into hobbies again.With Erik Hess and John Chidgey.Related Pragmatic Episodes: Pragmatic Episode 41: Meaningless Token Award Podcasts Referred to: Generational Technical Difficulties Dawn Patrol Stickers Direct Links: Pragmatic Sticker: Small Pragmatic Sticker: Large TechDistortion Sticker: Small TechDistortion Sticker: Large Related Links: Hobby Support Causality on PatreonEpisode sponsors:Lynda.com: Lynda.com is the easy and affordable way to learn where you can instantly stream thousands of courses created by experts in their fields of business, software, web development, graphic design and lots more. Visit the URL below to get a free 10-day trial. If you’ve ever wanted to learn something new, what are you waiting for? Visit lynda.com/pragmaticto learn more.Harvest: Harvest allows you to track your time quickly and easily with the ability to quickly turn those timesheets into invoices for your clients with built-in support for both PayPal and Stripe. Visit the URL below and sign up for a free 30 day trial today. Visit getharvest.com and use the Coupon Code PRAGMATIC and you’ll also save 50% off your first month but be quick - this offer expires on January the 15th, 2015!