Marty sits down with Carl Dong to discuss the launch of Obscura. Carl on Twitter: https://x.com/carl_dong Obscura VPN: https://obscura.net/ 0:00 - Intro 0:36 - Solving private VPN payments 5:48 - Explaining VPN hops 12:39 - Fold & Bitkey 14:34 - Censorship game theory 22:13 - VPNs more usable in restricted environs 27:10 - New generation of trustless VPNs 36:59 - User data is a toxic liability 41:16 - New possibilities for internet freedom 50:27 - Obscura's long term vision Shoutout to our sponsors: Fold https://foldapp.com/marty/ Bitkey https://bitkey.world/ Unchained https://unchained.com/tftc/ Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/