Marty sits down with Matt Cole from Strive to discuss the tidal shift in America driven by bitcoin. Matt on Twitter: https://x.com/colemacro Strive: https://strive.com/ 0:00 - Intro 0:36 - ESG/DEI disaster isn’t quite over yet 13:52 - Unchained & Coinkite 16:12 - Matt’s background and framing bitcoin for pensions 25:04 - Career risk of missing bitcoin 28:52 - Moving the Overton window and helping clients with bitcoin 33:12 - Zaprite & SOTE 34:45 - Making the most of bitcoin 43:07 - How using bitcoin changes your understanding 48:48 - AI machine payments, regulations and altcoins 56:34 - Trump admin stepping out of America’s way 1:03:21 - America has centuries left 1:13:33 - Wrapup Shoutout to our sponsors: Unchained https://unchained.com/tftc/ Coinkite https://coinkite.com/ Zaprite https://zaprite.com/tftc Salt of the Earth https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/