In this episode, I chat with Eric Balchunas, senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence and author of The Bogle Effect. We dive into the life and legacy of Jack Bogle, the founder of Vanguard, and explore the evolution of Bitcoin ETFs. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric Get up to $100 in Bitcoin on River at river.com/Matrix The best Team Bitcoin merch is at HodlersOfficial.com. Use the code Matrix for a discount on your order. Become a sponsor of the show: https://thebitcoinmatrix.com/sponsors/ ––– Get To Know Today's Guest ––– • Eric Balchunas on X: https://x.com/EricBalchunas ––– Socials ––– • Check out our new website at https://TheBitcoinMatrix.Com • Follow Cedric Youngelman on X: https://x.com/cedyoungelman • Follow The Bitcoin Matrix Podcast on X: https://x.com/_bitcoinmatrix • Follow Cedric Youngelman on Nostr: npub12tq9jxmt707gd5vnce3tqllpm67ktr0mqskcvy58qqa4d074pz9s4ukdcs ––– Chapters ––– 00:00 - Intro 01:12 - Eric’s Background: Journalism to Finance 05:53 - Investing Philosophy and Personal Strategy  09:24 - Exploring The Bogle Effect  12:09 - Comparing Bogle and Satoshi  22:19 - Origin Story of Vanguard  24:45 - Launching the First Index Fund  28:51 - The Sacrificial Ethos of Bogle 34:46 - Buffett’s Tribute and Endorsement  37:03 - Who Are the Bogleheads?  42:09 - Bogle’s Take on ETFs and Trading  44:59 - Frankenstein’s Monster: Thematic ETFs  49:46 - The Art of Doing Nothing  50:56 - Inflation, Bitcoin, and the Real Return  53:18 - Comparing Bitcoin and U.S. Stocks 54:45 - Bogle’s Take on Trustless Money and Banks  58:33 - Eric’s Journey into Bitcoin via ETF Filings  01:04:55 - TradFi’s Shift After the Bitcoin ETF Approval  01:05:37 - BlackRock, Fidelity & the Legitimization of Bitcoin  1:13:17 - ETFs response to a Major Drop in Bitcoin's Price  1:19:40 - The Two Things that Convinced Eric About Bitcoin  1:24:10 - How Has Bitcoin Changed Eric  DISCLAIMER: All views in this episode are our own and DO NOT reflect the opinions/views of any of our guests or sponsors.  I want to take a moment to express my heartfelt gratitude to all of you for tuning in, supporting the show, and contributing.  Thank you for listening!