Marty sits down with Pierre Rochard to discuss bitcoin rewriting the financial industry. Pierre on Twitter: https://x.com/BitcoinPierrePierre on Nostr: https://primal.net/pierre 0:00 - Intro 0:36- Casinos, burrito financing and defi 12:20 - Fold & Coinkite 13:57 - Recapitalizing with better collateral 24:01 - Can bitcoin cure the degens? 32:30 - Unchained 33:31 - Smoothing volatility and lending against bitcoin 42:23 - Inter-operability for the smoothbrains 47:48 - Political engagement 58:27 - Trump's crypto EO & President Kamala 1:05:09 - Leaving crypto behind 1:15:42 - Letting people touch the stove Shoutout to our sponsors: Fold https://tftc.io/fold Coinkite https://coinkite.com Unchained https://unchained.com/tftc/ Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/